Ask Nathan: Badass future electric off-road vehicles, the Toyota Avalon Hybrid AWD substitute and the ugliest car ever? – The fast lane car


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In this week’s Ask Nathan:

  • I bet future badass off-road electric vehicles will be mainstream in 5 years,
  • Does the Toyota Crown replace the missing Toyota Avalon hybrid AWD?
  • What do you think was the ugliest production car?

The first question comes from an email from a fan who sees a lot of promise in future off-road electric vehicles.

Image: Jeep

Q: (via AskNathan@TFLcar.com) I think I like the idea of ​​what future off-road electric vehicles could be.

Nathan, I don’t know if you remember. I met you at Pismo Beach and came to you when you were in a Hyundai Kona Iron Mand Edition.

You were going to Soundgarden and I commented when you were driving near a sandbar. I said something like you can’t drive that thing on the beach! You smiled and put on a killer Metallica song and loaded into it. I thought you were crazy! Then you exploded around him and came back just fine.

That was before I started watching your videos! Over the past few years I have come to really appreciate and appreciate your videos. You don’t just shout about how awesome super cars are and how much you hate electric vehicles. You even go so far as to show the honest pros and cons of just about everything out there.

He talks about this Hyundai Kona Iron Man Edition (Image: TFLcar)

With electric vehicles, especially Nathan, I’ve seen you mature.

You never drank all the cool-aid but you recognize how good their potential is. And I love that you even bought one. Also read some of your articles on false propaganda. I know that there are people who call themselves journalists and who publish on the net everything that coincides with their political position. Both sides are full of misinformation.

I still have a problem with what we’re going to do with wasted dead batteries. I know there are some things we can do with them, like taking valuable medals away from them. Do you think that’s enough because I don’t. You mentioned in a podcast that it would be an accumulation of used batteries before they figured out how to recycle them. I totally agree with you man!

I have ridden and driven off-road all my life. Some of the new side-by-sides are amazing and have crazy technology. You would think they are the pinnacle of off-road capability. But the idea of ​​a future badass off-road EV is pretty cool. All that torque and off-grid charging potential seems like a winner.

What do you think Nat?

  • Jake from Santa Maria, California

A: Hi Jake, I remember you, and I was actually in school in Santa Maria!

I’ve already stated my position on journalists who publish BS propaganda, and I still hate the idea of ​​them being politically motivated to do shit – on both sides. Thanks for reading it!

You’re right about me – even a monkey can evolve a little. I absolutely hated electric vehicles 10 years ago, but things can change. Now, I see a lot of positives in moving to a future with electric vehicles AND internal combustion. I think owning both (or a PHEV) is ideal for many families.

As for future badass off-road electric vehicles? Damn yes, the potential is there!

Image: Tamiya

I look at all the years I messed up with electric R/C cars. Even 40 years ago (and counting), many high-end R/C cars were powered by electricity. I’ve owned a dozen electric R/C cars (and one gas-powered model), starting with a Rough Rider from Tamiya. This thing came out in 1979! Sure, modern R/C cars outperform the Rough Rider, but it was very capable – and it looked cool too. I had one in 1983.

Now, if you think about how these little things are remarkably sturdy and (when properly sealed) can even be submerged, it gets you thinking.

If an R/C car can be as good off-road, what about a larger version that I drive?

Okay, the GMC Hummer HT is a bit of a stretch, but you know what I mean. The cool thing about these off-road electric vehicles is that the battery pack can totally reshape what we think off-road vehicles can be. Imagine having the insane amount of torque of an electric motor when accelerating through the dunes.

Once we get a better handle on remote charging, infrastructure and waste, it could be a badass off-road future.

The next question is about a Toyota Crown replacing a non-existent Toyota Avalon

Photo: Toyota

Q: (Via: NathanAdlen@Twitter) Is the Toyota Crown the answer to the lack of a Toyota Avalon Hybrid AWD?

Looks like that’s what it was built for.

Good question…

2023 Toyota Crown: A Delightfully Weird, Boosted Hybrid Sedan

A: Yes, the Toyota Crown is exactly this.

Funny thing, I was driving a Toyota Avalon Hybrid with a Toyota engineer a few years ago, and we had a similar discussion. One thing he (and many other engineers think) is that consumers want to move away from low-slung sedans. Simply put, the idea of ​​a higher seating position is appealing to many older drivers.

This is because exit and entry are better with crossovers than with standard cars. On top of that, it gives Toyota the opportunity to wake up its premium fleet. I mean, the Toyota Crown seems to be just one step away from Lexus. Why not make it special?

You can read more about the Toyota Crown (here).

I love that it can do up to 380 HP. The AWD system always sends engine power to the rear and this ratio is configurable from 20:80 to 70:30. On the top trim, Toyota gives us a true six-speed wet-clutch transmission with the Hybrid Max. The XLE and Limited get the eCVT unit. Sure, the sporty Hybrid Max gets a low 28mpg, compared to the lower model’s 38mpg – but it looks outstanding

Yes, I believe you’re right – the Toyota Crown replaces, in many ways, the Avalon.

The last question comes from a fan who wants to know what is/was the ugliest production car in my opinion…

Q: (Via: YouTube) What do you think was the ugliest production car?

I think it’s the Pontiac Aztec. Like the one you had a long time ago.

It was the first generation Rodius

A: Of course the Aztec is one – but there are others.

The worst I’ve even seen (in terms of production vehicles) was the SsangYong Rodius. I saw one overseas a while ago, and thought it was someone’s attempt at humor. A one-off that was made for a movie maybe.

No, I was wrong. This was a real production vehicle designed by Ken Greenley, and I’m sure alcohol or mushrooms were involved. LOOK AT THE! Who in their right mind saw this and said, “Yeah, I bet it’ll sell like hot cakes.”

Worse still, people willingly bought it. I mean, COME! There must be another mover whose design doesn’t make the kids cry, right?

Riding in the $1.1 million Puma Youabian |  Autoblog
Images: Puma Automobiles

Here there was an attempt to sell something even worse. Fortunately, it never reached full production. The Youabian Puma was…interesting. Parts were sourced from Volvo, GM and others. I’ve given my public opinion to Youabian in the past, and the “car maker” has threatened to sue me. No matter.

If I had to choose one or the other, I’d probably choose a blindfold first.

What are your ugliest choices?

Let us know below!!

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